Strange Model L?

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Strange Model L?

Post by Peter » Sun 01 Jan 2017, 02:05

Good morning!

What kind of Model L is this?
Grip has different shape
Grip plates are wood
No maker.
Stamped H811 on butt.

Prototype?
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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by bergler » Mon 02 Jan 2017, 14:42

Peter wrote:Good morning!

What kind of Model L is this?
Grip has different shape
Grip plates are wood
No maker.
Stamped H811 on butt.

Prototype?
Hi Peter,

Looks very interesting. Is it yours?

There are similar LP Ls from Sander I think, but this Looks different. Very nice Piece!

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by Peter » Tue 03 Jan 2017, 08:40

Hi Martin,
Thanks for your reply!

No, it is not mine...unfortunately!

It is not a Sander; they are "Sander" marked and have the "normal" Model-L grip, only with wooden plates.

This example apparently has no maker markings and a totally different grip with a lanyard loop at the back.
On top of the barrels, it has the "4" markings for the caliber and there are no WaA or other acceptance or proof marks.

It would be nice to identify it.
Hopefully someone can point us in the right direction.

Peter

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by hotto » Tue 03 Jan 2017, 11:21

Hi Peter
look here. This is a model "K". (Information from the new Book from Dr. Bruno Baumgarten)
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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by bergler » Tue 03 Jan 2017, 15:48

Hi Horst,

that is the one ;-)

Sander, but different. Very nice gun! Never seen one in natura....

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by Peter » Tue 03 Jan 2017, 19:31

Hi Horst & Martin,

That is the one; only the "Sander" stamp in missing and the barrels seem a little bit longer.
It must be a somewhat rare flare gun.

Thanks for you replies and pictures.
This is a great forum with great experts!

Peter

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by gunnertwo » Fri 06 Jan 2017, 05:47

Horst,

Please tell more about the new book from Dr. B.

Thanks,

G2

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by Peter » Sun 29 Jan 2017, 17:24

The flare gun was sold at auction last night: $5500, excl. buyers premium etc.
Nice price!

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by signalman » Sun 29 Jan 2017, 18:05

I was second highest bid at $5250.00. but was off the computer, so I could not raise my bid. With buyers premium, buyer paid close to $6500.

I was curious as to the marking on the Butt. It was pretty high for such a rare pistol to be a serial number.
Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.


I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !

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Re: Strange Model L?

Post by Peter » Sun 29 Jan 2017, 20:08

I have seen a similar mark on another flare gun butt recently, but I cannot remember on what type.
It must have been German though...maybe it comes back to me...

I am approaching 50...is forgetting things like these the beginning of the end???

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