Swedish m/25 ammunition #1

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Swedish m/25 ammunition #1

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Here is my latest found concerning Swedish flare gun ammunition, a original box with 25 pieces of "Signalpatron m/25" with brass cases. From my point of view is this found more spectacular as if get another pistol. The figures inside the cases indicates white, red and green. Production year is between app 1925 and 1940.
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What a great find. I have one bag, and apparently one or two flare rounds.

What are the triangular notches for, that are cut into the ends of the flare round??

Are these notches only found on Swedish flares, or also on other countries ??
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Hi Fson,
Thanks very much for the pictures. Neven seen before.
And same question about notches on cases.
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I have never heard about the meaning of those notches, there is either one, two or three in the open end of the case. In one of the photos you can also see a notch in the rand of the back part of some cases, I have seeing that way to mark even newer aluminium cases. Have obviously to do some investigation in this matter, and will of course come back with info, if I found some!!!
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Maybe a way to recognize their type in the darkness ? (It there is a link between the number of notches and the color for instance)
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Very beautiful.

Is it possible that they cut a triangle in the case when the cartridge is used for second or third thime (reloaded). Are the cartriges empty?
The dia. of the cases is it 25 mm ( French model ) or 26.5 mm ( Cal. 4 ).

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Regarding markings on casings established in 1925, following the cartridges with a single illuminant.

White, a white ring and a notch in the case edge
Red, a red ring, and two notches in the case edge
Green, a green ring and three notches in the case edge

As one can see in a picture is a label inside the case mouth consisting of letters, V, R and G, which means white, red and green. Sometime in the fifties was supplied cartridges loaded with a single luminous body with this marking.
The letters were glowing in the dark, and a compliment to the various notches in the case mouth and the flange at the rear.
Around 1960, started all cases of brass to be phased out and replaced by ditto of aluminum and other markings.

Total length was 100 mm, width of rear flange 30.3 mm and finally the case diameter 26.5 mm.

There was also cartridges with double luminous bodys and other ones with double luminous bodys in two colors etc. etc. add to that the markings had changed more times during the 35 years this cartridge was used. An example on that is one green cartridge with one notch in the case mouth which according the old marking should be a white one.

Swedish flareguns and ammunition would be a fairly narrow area and of course, it is so because Sweden is a little country and not been involved in any war the last 200 hundred years, the interest of Swedish military material is limited, I choose to currently not to write more but will wait and see if there is any interest at all.

All 25 cartridges are all loaded with a single luminous body and fill the half of the case volume.
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Fson--
Thank you for sharing your knowledge of Swedish flare guns and cartridges. Though I may never own a Swedish flare pistol and will probably never even see a live Swedish flare cartridge, I am definitely interesting in any tidbits you have to share. Keep it coming!
--Rob
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