25 mm - Finnish manufactured cartridges
The company Nils Dahl in Järvenpää started producing signal cartridges in the late twenties, following the example of the first generation signal cartridges from Belgium. These cartridges had a 80 mm long cardboard tube with a 7.5 mm high brass bottom. There were feelers on this floor to identify the cartridge in the dark. White signal cartridges had an uncolored case, the bottom and the shaft of the bottom piece were smooth. The closure was white and printed with the name and location of the manufacturer. Green star signal cartridges had a serrated shaft. The case was green, as well as the cap, on which again the name and the place of the manufacturer was to be found. The case of the red signal cartridge was colored red and the bottom was provided with a wreath of short strokes, which was the feel mark of this cartridge.
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Horst
Finnish signal cartridges
Finnish signal cartridges
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Re: Finnish signal cartridges
25 mm cartridges second model.
At the beginning of the winter war in 1939, the production was simplified. There were now only black, 77 mm long cases. These had essentially the same feeling signs as their predecessor models. Cartridges with a white star had a white cardboard lid with the name of the manufacturing company. The rim of the brass head was smooth. Also, the rim of the green signal cartridge was smooth, the shaft of the bottom piece was grooved. The name and location of the manufacturing company were printed on the green painted lid. The cartridge with a red star had a slightly different feel, which was easier to feel than the old one. The embossments on the cartridge bottom were moved to the rim, so that it was rough on its entire circumference. The lid of this cartridge was colored red and manufacturer's name was printet.
At the beginning of the winter war in 1939, the production was simplified. There were now only black, 77 mm long cases. These had essentially the same feeling signs as their predecessor models. Cartridges with a white star had a white cardboard lid with the name of the manufacturing company. The rim of the brass head was smooth. Also, the rim of the green signal cartridge was smooth, the shaft of the bottom piece was grooved. The name and location of the manufacturing company were printed on the green painted lid. The cartridge with a red star had a slightly different feel, which was easier to feel than the old one. The embossments on the cartridge bottom were moved to the rim, so that it was rough on its entire circumference. The lid of this cartridge was colored red and manufacturer's name was printet.
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Re: Finnish signal cartridges
Hi Horst,
Tanks for posting all this info!
It is great to read and learn (and it keeps the forum lively).
Best regards!
Peter
Tanks for posting all this info!
It is great to read and learn (and it keeps the forum lively).
Best regards!
Peter
Re: Finnish signal cartridges
THANKS Horst!
my primary interest is Finland's WW2 history, firearms [including shooting] and militaria.
Needless to say flare pistols, & as with most things Finnish, a great many varieties!
This info on the flares is appreciated & good to know
ps. how common are these flares... non-existent in N America.
I have two [fired] Italian WW2 as "contemporary examples"
my primary interest is Finland's WW2 history, firearms [including shooting] and militaria.
Needless to say flare pistols, & as with most things Finnish, a great many varieties!
This info on the flares is appreciated & good to know
ps. how common are these flares... non-existent in N America.
I have two [fired] Italian WW2 as "contemporary examples"