List of my German Police marked Flare Pistols.

[signalman]

Hello, I just made this list to answer a question in another forum and thought I will post it here as well

My current list of German Police marked Flare Pistols

Zinc Models

Walther banner #53915L E/C
Erma-Erfurt # 7811 E/F
Erma-Erfurt # 7898 E/F

Aluminum Models

WALTHER BANNER # 27,627L E/C

ayf 41 # 166G E/C E/J ( E/J is a rework proof )

ERMA-ERFURT 40 # 4968 E/K
ERMA-ERFURT 1940 # 3441 E/L
ERMA-ERFURT 1940 # 5286 E/K
ERMA-ERFURT 41 # 5361 E/K
ERMA-ERFURT 41 # 5846 E/K
ERMA-ERFURT 42 # 5977 E/K
ERMA-ERFURT 42 # 6159 E/K
ERMA-ERFURT 42 # 6444 E/F
ERMA-ERFURT no date # 8834 E/L

ERMA-ERFURT 1937 Police eagle # P188
ERMA-ERFURT 1937 Police eagle # 552

Steel Model

WALTHER BANNER # 19,203 STARBURST "K"

I also have a Police marked WWI Hebel converted to Gas Pistol hidden away.

[JoeW]

There you go Howard, cornering the market. Are you one of the Hunt brothers? : )

I had some of these listed on my data base and some are new. Two questions. Did you sell ERMA P381? I had this one belonging to you. Also, can you verify that ERMA-ERFURT #8834 is E/L? It sticks out like a sore thumb at the end of all the E/F ERMAs before it.

Thank you.

[signalman]

Hello Joe, As most of my flare pistols are in storage, I will have to dig them out to check on Erma P381, I may have written the wrong number for a serial on my list, as I only have 2 with a P prefix. Just found it, # 552 has a police eagle, but NO prefix for the serial number. I corrected my list. I do not remember if I sold my P381, or it is stored away where I missed it when making my list.

The Late Erma-Erfurt #8834 is stamped faintly on the left side of the break open lever with E/L, I was just looking at it yesterday.

Do you have any information regarding my cleaning rod, with a Police E/D proof ?

[JoeW]

Interesting that #4968 is a "40" date and #5286 is a full date 1940. I was hoping there would be a positive break somewhere in there with a change from 1940 to "40". I have a 1940 Erma at #4136.

Your Erma #8834 is stamped on the Hebel and not on the frame where they were normally accepted? Perhaps it is a replacement part. An odd place to accept the flare pistol.

I saw */D on some early police magazines and on some police bayonets I have. I believe one of them is a E/D also, though the marking is sometimes confusing with the E/B. Is the D on the eagles chest or is it to the lower right?

[signalman]

Hello Joe, The "D" is on the lower right. The rod is minty, and the proofing is sharp and clear, no mistaking that marking.

Also, The ERMA-ERFURT 40 is also minty, except for a minor rub on the butt of the pistol. Definitely a reworked, or remarked frame from an ayf 40, as the ayf is somewhat visible under the ERMA-ERFURT mark, and lined up correctly for an ayf 40. NOTE, the ayf 40's ( standard heer, not police ) serial numbers have an " e " suffix.

It is a great pistol, and it also came with a Brown Police holster.

[ayf]

I have two police stamped flare guns:

One are a Walther with Walther logo and police stamp .There is no letters under the "polizei adler" and the seriel number are 22 792 ,there are no year of production stamping on the flare gun .

The other one are stamped Erma Erfurt 1938 with "polizei adler" and letter K,serial number are 958.



Regards from cold Norway

[JoeW]

Very interesting "ayf". Is your Walther marked with the stick wing police acceptance eagle or the full chested eagle? Has anyone seen a ERMA ERFURT 1939 dated pistol with police acceptance?

[ayf]

I think its a fully chested type,the same style as the eagle stamped on police flare gun holsters. :)

[signalman]

Just found another one hidden away, ERMA-ERFURT 1940 # 3441 E/L. I corrected my list.

[JoeW]

I have it on my list. I think I sold it to you some years ago, as I had bought a couple 1940s.