Does anyone know the approximate month/serial number range when the EVCC changed from bluing their M-8s to parkerizing them?
I have two that are dated 1943:
S/N E-109195 is blued
S/N E-156144 is parkerized
Can anyone narrow the range more closely?
I also have a third EVCC M-8, parkerized but no date and no serial number. Actually, the back of the grip has "Serial No. E-" with nothing after the dash. It is functional (I have fired it) so I don't think it was a military reject. Were there "lunch box specials" in the flare gun world too?
TIA. Glad I found you guys - a flare gun forum is long overdue!
Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
One of the more difficult M-8's to find, are the Blued examples with Factory Lanyard ring. The serial number on these begin with ATS and are undoubtedly a special contract.
My blued examples are mostly Eureka Vacuum Cleaner Co. Manufactured.
My blued examples are usual early ( serial numbers under 100,000 )
My Parkerized examples usually have a higher serial number than 100,000
I also have an M-8 Parkerized M.S.W.C. Maker with no serial number.
There are also many RARE military conversions. Some with grenade cups.
One variation is the M-8 converted to 25mm and the finish on these are all found painted black.
I also have one example marked with the Van Karner ( a New York manufacture ) address.
My blued examples are mostly Eureka Vacuum Cleaner Co. Manufactured.
My blued examples are usual early ( serial numbers under 100,000 )
My Parkerized examples usually have a higher serial number than 100,000
I also have an M-8 Parkerized M.S.W.C. Maker with no serial number.
There are also many RARE military conversions. Some with grenade cups.
One variation is the M-8 converted to 25mm and the finish on these are all found painted black.
I also have one example marked with the Van Karner ( a New York manufacture ) address.
Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
Thanks Signalman!
Could you share a picture of the blued variant with a lanyard ring? I have never seen one of those.
Also, any speculation on the ones without a serial number? Post-war civilian sales? "Lunch box special" that went home in a worker's lunch box before getting its serial number? Or...?
One more question. Did they stamp the year on the M-8 throughout the war or did that end in 1943 or 1944?
Could you share a picture of the blued variant with a lanyard ring? I have never seen one of those.
Also, any speculation on the ones without a serial number? Post-war civilian sales? "Lunch box special" that went home in a worker's lunch box before getting its serial number? Or...?
One more question. Did they stamp the year on the M-8 throughout the war or did that end in 1943 or 1944?
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
I will picture it when I can.
I am not familiar with any M-8 factory dated 1944 so I guess dating stopped in 1943.
I think there may be too many M-8's without serial numbers for them to be lunchbox specials, but that is just a guess.
Other possibilities would include replacements for Government rejected pieces, commercial sales, or foreign contract to one of our allies.
I am not familiar with any M-8 factory dated 1944 so I guess dating stopped in 1943.
I think there may be too many M-8's without serial numbers for them to be lunchbox specials, but that is just a guess.
Other possibilities would include replacements for Government rejected pieces, commercial sales, or foreign contract to one of our allies.
Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
Here is a photo of the Lanyard loop variation
Note the ATS prefix to the serial number
Note the ATS prefix to the serial number
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Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
This is one of a number of known versions altered for a grenade cup.
It is dated 1943
It is dated 1943
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Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
This is a known military conversion to the 25mm flares. All of them I know of have the black painted finish.
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Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
Thanks for posting the pictures of those M-8 variants, signalman! I had never seen any of those three and didn't know that they even existed.
Do you know if the grenade launcher and 25mm conversions are U.S. or done by another country?
Do you know if the grenade launcher and 25mm conversions are U.S. or done by another country?
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
They are USA Military, and are actually pictured with others in a US Military Manual I saw.
Good Collecting, Howard
Good Collecting, Howard
Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
I am still looking for ANY information regarding the European Use of the Original Costons flares from 1859 through 1881. Photo's, Patents, contracts & orders, ANY INFORMATION IS NEEDED ! !
Re: Switch from blued to parkerized finish?
For my very first post --- FYI: There is a M8 converted to 25mm currently being listed on GunBroker. A little steep for my wallet right now with a starting bid at $500.00 ('Buy It Now'=$750.00)
Here's the page link: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/586403438
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Here's the page link: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/586403438
Bear