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LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:19
by K & K Collection
Hi,
Here a German holster in light brown, yellow. Never seen one like this before in this colours. What do you think, is this o.K.? Inside there's a stamp, but I don't find a WaA mark. Inside the mark is RDNr6/0570/0043. The last numbers can I see not so good. The cleaning rod have the WaA 715 stamp. Who knows more?
Best regards
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:21
by K & K Collection
More pictures
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:22
by K & K Collection
And more
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 22:26
by signalman
could it be rubberized canvas instead of paper ??
My belief is that this is a postwar manufacture, possibly E. German, possibly fake. I saw several rubberized canvas versions that color, and artificially aged to fool collectors about 15 years ago.
Both times they did fool a collector and sold.
I do not believe the cleaning rod is WWII either.
What is your opinion, as you actually have it in hand, I can only judge by the photo's
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 19:04
by bergler
those holsters came up recently and were discussed in various forums. the general believe is that they are 100% fake, which is my opinion as well. i would not buy it.
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 19:46
by hotto
Hi Kurt,
the number in your holster is a factory number named “Reichsbetriebsnummer” (RB Nr). These numbers were assigned so that the producers did not have to be listed in plain text. The number in your holster should be: RB Nr. 0/0570 / 0043rd
The first digit indicates which mode is to:
0 = Industrial / 1 = craft etc. The first group (0570) provides information on the location of the company: 0550 = Cologne / 0560 = Wuppertal / 0571=Werdohl /0570 I have not found, it could be Lüdenscheid.
The second group shows the company number. Your number would thus mean:
Reichsbetriebsnummer: 0 (Industrial Use) 0570 (Lüdenscheid) 0043Company number
This System was not used after the end of the war.
Best regards
Horst
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 23:19
by BrunoH
Hi,
I've seen these holsters for sale on eBay from a well 'known' seller. It's 100 % a fake (even if the job has been well done).
Best regards
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 23:45
by signalman
RB numbers are used on a great many fakes. I have a number of fake Helmet chinstraps with RB numbers, and have seen them on fake overseas hats, tunics, and other items.
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Thu 04 Apr 2013, 10:37
by K & K Collection
Hi,
Yes, I'll think it's made in rubberized canvas. The holster is very good made. When you see the holster for the first time, you're thinking it's a original one. Now when I look for the second and thirt time, I begin more and more beleving that it's a fake one. I don't keep him in my collection.
Best regards.
Re: LP HOLSTER IN PAPER
Posted: Fri 05 Apr 2013, 19:57
by signal
Sorry Kürt,
I agree with the others, its a fake one !
Signal